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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:13 am 
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Washington State has 2 licensed stations, 18 construction permits to build and 25 pending applications remaining to be reviewed. 10 of those 25 applications are for 104.5 in the Metro King County area -- and will be "dismissed" because 104.5 has been assigned to Covington for full power use. One of the CP's near Yakima on 104.9 - might have a very short life. A pending rule-making to allot 104.9 to Yakima may end up deleting the low power station in favor of a Full Class 'A' or 'C-3' (Hint - Hint). Of the 18 CP's -- some have very short periods of time remaining to constuct. Morton's CP will expire on Dec. 27, 2004. Idaho has 3 on the air, 4 CP's and 4 remain as applications. Montana has 2 on the air, 33 CP's and 13 pending applications. While in the wonderful state confusion - AKA Oregon - there are 16 licensed LPFM - 19 CP's and 23 remaining as applications. However - 9 of the 23 remaining applications are FAKE applications and are under investigation by the FCC. Most are in the Klamath Falls area filed by Dr. Sandra Soho, aka George Smith, George Wade, Sandra Falk, and a cast of other names. Ms Soho was at one time Mr. Soho who lost the DR for selling narcotics and now CLAIMS to be a Reverend. And who says you can't get a laugh or smile from the FCC ???


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:30 am 
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Hey i'm in pullman trying to get a low power FM. Any ideas on how to get one going?


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Try taking up knitting !! If you did not file back in 2000, you are to late. There are no more channels. If there are - they can also be used by FULL POWERED FM stations that bring in MONEY. The FCC auctions them off as required by Congress. Congress requires the FCC to make money for the General Fund. It seems LPFM was doomed to fail. A false promise. OR -- you could request your own BAND for low powered Community Radio. 530 Kz. From 1700 - 1750 Khz. From 2000 - 2500 Khz. All AM or Turn TV channels 5 and 6 into FM Band. (76 - 88 Mhz) 60 new FM channels -- just below the Educational Band. AND the FCC has moved most of the users of channels 5 and 6 to NEW HDTV channels in the UHF bands. Channel 6 TV has only 7 HDTV users -- that could be MOVED.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:48 pm 
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MTM is right, if your wanting to start up a legal LPFM station you might as well forget about it. You could always create your own personnel communications commission (PCC). Carefully scan the bands and find a small pocket of free air space, then put your station on the air, many companies even offer turn key solutions.
Want to encounter resistance? Pump out high power and a dirty signal, the other commission (FCC) will be at your door faster than a pizza delivery man. An efficient micro power setup will go a long way. Most importantly, have an agenda and be respectful of other band users.

Please do not confuse my personnel ramblings with suggestions of illegal activity. Stay in school, eat your vegetables, keep off drugs.

-Marcus


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:28 pm 
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It was to be legal. I'm the GM at KUGR a cable ONLY station in pullman. years back the board decided to go cable rather then broadcast, kinda screwed us. so now i'm trying to get help from school but all the profs are worried about damn TV then radio. If you guys can thing of anything. i heard that pullman has no free freq in the FM dial. I really want an AM station, a lot more money...but when digital AM come into play those licenses are gonna be hot stuff! If you guys have any ideas, any ideas that are legal.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:38 pm 
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Any another thing, don't ya think when the TV stations go to digital that the increase of freq will just flood the system. Does the FCC plan on making those freq radio...commerical or i thought it was more public saftey freq? But you did say (MTM) that channel 5 and 6 would open 60 new freq. Wouldn't that be just WAY to much radio! I mean how selective would they be in formats? Clear channel would have fun!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:19 pm 
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The FCC deleted any TV channel above channel 51. Those channels are for Public Safety and cellphones. (52 - 69). Every TV station has been given a HDTV channel to match the existing analog. King TV 5 has a digital UHF channel - KING-TV and KING-DT. In 2007 the FCC requires that each analog channel be given BACK to the FCC. The FCC has now requested that each Station ( analog + HD ) tell the FCC later this month - which channel they will use for HDTV after 2007. As it stands now -- MOST stations will most likely keep the existing UHF channel that they use for HD and give back the analog. Some MAY "Flip - Flop". As of TODAY there are only 7 or 8 stations assigned to use TV channel 6 for HDTV. So unless everyone now using Channels 5 and 6 analog -- request to move the HDTV to the old analog channels (Like KING TV in Seattle) the lower channels will be clear for other services. Since the FCC has no "ownership limits" it would benefit all of the big time owners -- if a new 60 channel band was made open for all. What needs to be a part of the "Plan" is to allow or set aside a few channels out of the 60 -- just for low power "Community FM" stations. It's better than NOTHING and without a "tit for tat" nothing ever gets done in Washington, DC. --The "educational Band" has more room for additional stations -- however the FCC requires FM stations below 92.1 to "protect" TV channel 6. If TV channel 6 is no longer used as a TV channel - the 88.1 - 91.9 Mhz "Reseved Band" would ALSO have more room for LPFM. TV channel 5 is 76 - 82 Mhz and TV channel 6 is from 82 - 88 Mhz. So the NEW FM band would be from 76 Mhz to 108 Mhz -- ALL togather. Which is what the FCC mandated when they deleted the FIRST FM Band ( 40 - 50 Mhz). Anyone else have a "plan" ??


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:42 pm 
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What needs to be a part of the "Plan" is to allow or set aside a few channels out of the 60 -- just for low power "Community FM" stations. It's better than NOTHING and without a "tit for tat" nothing ever gets done in Washington, DC.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:29 pm 
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Ah, but whats considered "community fm"?


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100 watts -- ERP at + 30 M (100 feet) HAAT. 60 dBu contour of about 3 - 4 miles.


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