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 Post subject: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:31 pm 
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So instead of calling *611 and asking them, Wilrobnson called me and asked why his DynaTAC 8000x always switches to 1X mode during a call and back to EVDO (3G) after.

My theory was that Verizon uses their 800 channels (1X) for voice only and 1900 (3G/EVDO) for data only. And apparently dual band phones can only use one radio at a time, whereas tri band (the third being 4G/LTE/700 MHz) can use two at a time.


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:35 pm 
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And you were so confused, you got lost in Renton. Even I can't do that.

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:43 pm 
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I didn't get lost, it's just the conversation was much more interesting than anything in Renton. I made it home without needing to consult a map or GPS and as a bonus I got to go over I-90 floating bridge and the view was worth it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Atomic Taco wrote:
DynaTAC 8000x

Very funny. I remember when those came out on the market. Way before your time. ooohhh lookie here, I just found something even older, a DynaTAC 4000x shop manual on my bookshelf !


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Isn't Renton in the 206 still?
Yeah, I 'd get lost in a city easier than the woods.

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:02 pm 
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the Outlaw wrote:
Isn't Renton in the 206 still?
425 since 1997.


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Atomic Taco wrote:

My theory was that Verizon uses their 800 channels (1X) for voice only and 1900 (3G/EVDO) for data only. And apparently dual band phones can only use one radio at a time, whereas tri band (the third being 4G/LTE/700 MHz) can use two at a time.


Yup on the freqs. Ill assume your correct on the rest as I can talk and surf now on my Droid.

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:50 pm 
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chpalmer wrote:
Atomic Taco wrote:
My theory was that Verizon uses their 800 channels (1X) for voice only and 1900 (3G/EVDO) for data only. And apparently dual band phones can only use one radio at a time, whereas tri band (the third being 4G/LTE/700 MHz) can use two at a time.
Yup on the freqs. Ill assume your correct on the rest as I can talk and surf now on my Droid.
Surely you don't mean the Droid; it doesn't have a 700 radio.


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Atomic Taco wrote:
chpalmer wrote:
Atomic Taco wrote:
My theory was that Verizon uses their 800 channels (1X) for voice only and 1900 (3G/EVDO) for data only. And apparently dual band phones can only use one radio at a time, whereas tri band (the third being 4G/LTE/700 MHz) can use two at a time.
Yup on the freqs. Ill assume your correct on the rest as I can talk and surf now on my Droid.
Surely you don't mean the Droid; it doesn't have a 700 radio.


New Motorola Droid something... Bought it the day before the big change to the plans. 4G phone.

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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http://phandroid.com/2012/08/07/metropc ... onnect-4g/


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Atomic Taco wrote:
http://phandroid.com/2012/08/07/metropcs-is-now-the-first-carrier-in-the-us-to-offer-voice-over-lte-with-lg-connect-4g/



My phone tested at 23mbps / 20mbps in Tacoma last week... I get 4g there and in Shelton and areas around Belfair so far... Voice over 4g would be awesome! Right up till I go over on my data plan...

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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chpalmer wrote:
Voice over 4g would be awesome! Right up till I go over on my data plan...


Imagine the irony of running a G.711u or G.711.1 IP call over a cellphone, you would probably have a better sounding call than if you made a normal cellphone call.

This is one thing the under-30 crowd didn't have much opportunity to experience; the days when landline telephone calls were full DS0 over TDM end to end and cellphones were wideband analog AMPS. Phones back then had clean 300-3000+ bandwidth without noticeable latency or artifacting. Those old phones sounded so good that you could actually understand the person on the other end.

These days every other word on my phone calls are "what?" or "say again?", and it sure isn't attributed to deafness on my part...


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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I used to call someone using an AMPS bag-phone up until 2005 to their Nex***. Guess whose calls never dropped?

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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Vonage was (is?) running a deal where you could use their servers to make VOIP calls over the phone. Doesn't use any minutes and I've gotten quite a few complaints about call quality. They seem to be doing ANI spoofing and won't let me *67 any numbers.


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 Post subject: Re: 1X and EVDO
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Rich wrote:
chpalmer wrote:
Voice over 4g would be awesome! Right up till I go over on my data plan...


Imagine the irony of running a G.711u or G.711.1 IP call over a cellphone, you would probably have a better sounding call than if you made a normal cellphone call.

This is one thing the under-30 crowd didn't have much opportunity to experience; the days when landline telephone calls were full DS0 over TDM end to end and cellphones were wideband analog AMPS. Phones back then had clean 300-3000+ bandwidth without noticeable latency or artifacting. Those old phones sounded so good that you could actually understand the person on the other end.

These days every other word on my phone calls are "what?" or "say again?", and it sure isn't attributed to deafness on my part...


I'm 26 but I barely remember that era....I remember talking to relatives on the phone around age 4 or 5 in 1989-1990 which was what, 6 years after the Bell System was broken up and it sounding totally different. I would say around 1996 is when things started sounding different for sure.

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