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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:22 pm 
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I have a new TRX-1
Updated library and firmware, etc.
(uses most current radiotoolshed data)

WSP - hear radio traffic fine everywhere.
KCSO, Seattle PD, Bellevue PD, Bothell PD, etc - just fine in certain areas like North end of Lake Washington - most other areas - dead silence. Nothing....
Site shows EPSCA Simulcast.

I can be in DT Seattle/Renton/Kent/Redmond, etc, etc, etc, (most places) and the TRX-1 is dead silent.
I can see it trying, display populates with alpha-tag, but it won't decode.

Basically, every LEA (law enforcement agency) uses Seattle-King County Public Safety (KCERS).
So, unless I am in range of "EPSCA Simulcast", there is nothing.

Anyone having the same problem?
Solutions?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:49 pm 
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nessnet wrote:
I have a new TRX-1
Updated library and firmware, etc.
(uses most current radiotoolshed data)

WSP - hear radio traffic fine everywhere.
KCSO, Seattle PD, Bellevue PD, Bothell PD, etc - just fine in certain areas like North end of Lake Washington - most other areas - dead silence. Nothing....
Site shows EPSCA Simulcast.

I can be in DT Seattle/Renton/Kent/Redmond, etc, etc, etc, (most places) and the TRX-1 is dead silent.
I can see it trying, display populates with alpha-tag, but it won't decode.

Basically, every LEA (law enforcement agency) uses Seattle-King County Public Safety (KCERS).
So, unless I am in range of "EPSCA Simulcast", there is nothing.

Anyone having the same problem?
Solutions?



Decode what? It's analog.

You don't have it set to P25 do you?

Also, make sure your table is set up properly.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:19 am 
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nessnet wrote:
I have a new TRX-1. I can be in DT Seattle/Renton/Kent/Redmond, etc, etc, etc, (most places) and the TRX-1 is dead silent.
I can see it trying, display populates with alpha-tag, but it won't decode.


1. You won't get much coverage if you're trying to get EPSCA (Site 3) from those cities. They have their own sites.
2. Are you using the correct band plan?
3. If all else fails then dump the info from RR and enter the data in manually.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:58 am 
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To clarify, I have all KCERS sites (below) programmed into the TRX-1 and enabled.
I also enabled the advanced features / line 4 / system and site name.
So, I can see what site any trunked traffic is on - (when I actually hear any)

So... for ANY agency on KCERS, I only hear traffic from EPSCA Simulcast.
If I am out of range of EPSCA Simulcast (like downtown) I am out of luck - dead silence.
If I am in range, the TRX-1 picks up traffic from everyone, (SPD, KCSO, Norcom, various city PD, etc)

Has every Seattle-King County Public Safety (KCERS) site (below from RR) been rebanded?

Below is the sites and what RR has programmed the table for each:

001 (1) Seattle Simulcast - Splinter
002 (2) Appletree Cove - custom
003 (3) EPSCA Simulcast - custom
006 (6) King County/ValleyCom Simulcast - splinter
007 (7) EPSCA North Seattle - custom
008 (8) Grass Mountain - custom
009 (9) Sobieski Mountain - default
011 (B) McDonald Mountain ( Kangley ) - default
013 (D) Snoqualmie Pass (Dodge Ridge) - default
014 (E) Capitol Hill (Seattle Backup) - default
015 (F) King County Courthouse - custom
016 (10) Sound Transit ( South Portal Low Power 5W ) - custom
017 (11) Regional Justice Center - custom
040 (28) Education Hill - custom
041 (29) Newcastle IR (SE Bellevue Area) - custom

Custom is showing the below table:
(I assume the below is the rebanded table, because this is the info populated when I click the "Set Reband" in a blank table.

Ch-Lo Ch-Hi Offset Base Freq Step
440 559 440 851.0250 25.00
0 719 0 851.0125 25.00
720 759 0 848.0000 25.00
815 831 0 846.6250 25.00
958 958 958 868.9750 25.00
961 1022 0 843.4000 25.00

So, assuming the "custom" sites are rebanded, why wouldn't I be hearing them also??


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:09 am 
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Splinter is bad. Most everything should be custom.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:32 pm 
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nessnet wrote:
To clarify, I have all KCERS sites (below) programmed into the TRX-1 and enabled.

No, the proper sentence is this: I have used all of the programming information provided to me by RR and have **assumed** it is all correct.

dste is correct and your listing of each site and their respective band plan proves it. EPSCA is the only site that is correct. The other sites (with any range) are all incorrect. This is why you're only receiving EPSCA.

Now please go complain to RR how screwed up their database is...


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:41 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:21 pm 
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Nick - I just fixed it "again".


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:26 pm 
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Is Whistler reading these...?
There were a couple of problems I have found.
I (think) I have solved both.

When investigating this issue, I noticed that occasionally many of the KCERS sites' freqs were gone. Example: One of the main simulcast sites had only 4-5 frequencies, when it should have had 31. Freqs were missing on many other sites.

Somehow, they got dumped, due to some glitch somewhere. I didn't remove them.
And it happened multiple times, so there is a coding problem somewhere.
Problem solved by just verifying every time that all freq are there, on each site before saving.

As to RR and their data.
Currently, the library version loading is V-496.
In 496, RR is erroneously setting some of KCERS sites as default, or splinter.
I now manually put them all custom (rebanded).

For you TRX-1 owners, in the dropdown, change it to custom, press edit and then set reband and save.

I now have verified all of each individual sites have the right number of frequencies. I then checked that each site was set to custom and the table was correct. – all were set to custom (rebanded).

I went for a drive and sat across the lake from DT Seattle and got traffic on multiple other sites.
Did some further testing and yes, we have a working TRX-1 in Seattle.

ATTN: TRX owners!!!
In the case where RR data is wrong, if you add any trunkgroups to that system in the future, (in my case KCERS), it will over-ride any reband settings you have done manually - until RR finally gets around to fixing it. You have to go in and reband every time before saving.

I thought all were rebanded, when they actually were not.
They are now.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:37 pm 
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RR has wrong data?

Imagine that !

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:36 am 
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ness you do not need a gazillion freqs per site... only the control channels for each site... delete the voice channels....


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Set up Unitrunker and you'll have the answers you need in 15 seconds flat.

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