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This is for all our police or ex-police viewers.

A few minutes ago a car driving down my street crashes into a parked car on my street at about 25-30 mph.

Doesn't look like it damaged the parked car (newer dodge dakota), but the "crasher" completly destroys the front end of their car.

I call Tacoma's finest....within 30 seconds the cops show up, has a 3 second conversation with the parties and says"have a good night"

Now, I'm not too savy with traffic law, but doesn't that warrant a little investigation?

Oh yeah, the "crasher" said she didn't have insurance. Shouldn't the cop have at least run the tag?

I'm sure I went a little ape-sh*t by calling the cops in the first place, but I just don't like people aimlessly driving down my street.

Thanks

Makes no sense to me.

-Marcus
K7INW

With out being there I wouldnt feel confortable commenting. There could be many factors. Some of which is that most citable offenses have to be viewed by the officer. But I cant say for sure without being there and having more info ont he story

Elaborate on 'crash'. No damage= no report. $700+ =report (or injury, or hit/run).
I agree w/ the other gentleman= lots of factors.
RCW Title 46 infractions (most) need to be observed by LE for enforcement action.

I deal with Law Enforcement agencies all day long, and there might be more to this story than we know.

That being said, I moved out of Tacoma for several reasons. One was the stupidity of the Council and Mayor. One of the other reasons was a complete and total lack of confidence in TPD. On several occasions, I had to call TPD. I was less than happy with the response from LESA, and then TPD. The officers were arrogant and non caring. I guess "Sorry to interupt your lunch break" should have come out of my mouth. Both hit and runs (with excellent suspect info) were never solved. I came several seconds from having to remove a Level 3 sex offender from my back yard by force, and there has been a rape on the property since I sold it.

A lot of people like to rag on the cops, not me. I have several family members that are police officers. I have observed over 20 different agencies throughout the state and work with at least that many on a weekly basis. Never have I seen such a poorly managed department with so many uncaring employees.

Did the TPD officer blow you off ? He knows. You know. I have my own thoughts.

I've been purposely trying to stay out of this one (especially from 2000+ miles away), but must say that most of the TPD officers I worked with, and knew/know were top-notch. There's always bad apples though...

I do have to question one of Larry's comments though:



25-30 mph and little or no damage to the truck, and no injuries? Not likely. Try driving that fast and hitting something sometime.



Wil

"Most eyewitnesses, aren't"- Unknown instructor, WSCJTC 2001

Actually there is no more to the story. That was it. This isn't some conspiricy. Just asking a question.

Oh yeah, the speed was an estimate (sorry, I didn't have my Ramsey built speed gun close by) but I believe it was close. The moron driver actually lifted the rear end of the truck up and was under it, it peeled her hood back and it seems it was a little too high to pop the air bag. There are plenty of accidents without injuires so just go with it....ooookay.

I've had other experiences in calling the TPD before and like Seans, most of those events were dealing with a level 3 sex offender and I was being talked to like I was the criminal. My neighborhood together removed his sick a** :twisted:

I guess the point/question I trying to get to was........Moron drives down street and hits parked car VERY HARD. Moron has no insurance. Cops show up within 1 minute of call (makes me think nothing more important was going on at the time and I did tell the 911 op that there were no injuries) Cop asks if they ("they" being moron driver and the parked cars owner who came outside) need assistance. Cop then walks back to car and drives of slowly (not fast like he got another call)

This is just strange to me. I guess I watch COPS too much and expect a little more drama.

If it drives like a drunk, it talks like a drunk, and it looks like a drunk............

dosn't Damage over $300.00 Have to be Reported (not $700.00)

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Brian Sewell

http://slc.leg.wa.gov/wsr/2000/02/00-02-025.htm


WSR 00-02-025
EMERGENCY RULES


WASHINGTON STATE PATROL



[ Filed December 28, 1999, 3:48 p.m. ]

Date of Adoption: December 28, 1999.

Purpose: To update the motor vehicle accident-reporting threshold which has not been updated in ten years from $500.00 to $700.00.

Statutory Authority for Adoption: RCW 46.52.030.

Under RCW 34.05.350 the agency for good cause finds that immediate adoption, amendment, or repeal of a rule is necessary for the preservation of the public health, safety, or general welfare, and that observing the time requirements of notice and opportunity to comment upon adoption of a permanent rule would be contrary to the public interest.

Reasons for this Finding: The current accident-reporting threshold is very outdated and contributes to the high number of accident reports submitted to the state. The threshold for property damage accidents needs to be raised immediately to a realistic level so that officers can concentrate on serious threats to public safety.

Number of Sections Adopted in Order to Comply with Federal Statute: New 0, Amended 0, Repealed 0; Federal Rules or Standards: New 0, Amended 0, Repealed 0; or Recently Enacted State Statutes: New 2, Amended 0, Repealed 0.

Number of Sections Adopted at Request of a Nongovernmental Entity: New 0, Amended 0, Repealed 0.

Number of Sections Adopted on the Agency's Own Initiative: New 2, Amended 0, Repealed 0.

Number of Sections Adopted in Order to Clarify, Streamline, or Reform Agency Procedures: New 2, Amended 0, Repealed 0.

Number of Sections Adopted Using Negotiated Rule Making: New 0, Amended 0, Repealed 0; Pilot Rule Making: New 2, Amended 0, Repealed 0; or Other Alternative Rule Making: New 0, Amended 0, Repealed 0. Effective Date of Rule: Immediately.


December 28, 1999


Annette M. Sandberg


Chief


Chapter 446-85 WAC

ACCIDENT-REPORTING THRESHOLD
NEW SECTION
WAC 446-85-005
Promulgation.

By authority of RCW 46.52.030(5), the Chief of the Washington State Patrol hereby establishes the following rule for the accident-reporting threshold based on the inflationary index as recommended by the office of financial management.


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NEW SECTION
WAC 446-85-010
Accident-reporting threshold.
Beginning January 1, 2000, the accident-reporting threshold for property damage accidents shall be seven hundred dollars.


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oh ok I Didn't know it Changed
When I got my drivers Lic in 1976 it was $300.00. i Didn't Know it Changed, :o

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Brian Sewell

Hit & Run isn't automatically a reportable incident. Only the Injury and $700 damage threshold guidelines are stipulated in RCW for reporting (46.52.030, 46.52.070). Though as a matter of policy, most agencies will investigate Hit and Runs because they are criminal in nature, and by the mere act of hitting another car and running, it is a violation (regardless of the amount of damage caused).

Title 46 Infractions can be issued as result of a collision investigation, where the violation doesn't occur in the officers presence (RCW 46.63.030 [1] [c]).

As for the Tacoma Officer....well, there are a bunch of "if's", "and's" or "but's" that can be thrown in here....but, it certainly has the flavor of "blow off". Generally, if metal is bent, it's going to be reportable.

Were there unusually icy conditions present today? Maybe they were operating under "snow rules"?

Just speculation....

Brad.

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Whatever.....

1976 ??? Shouldn't you be dead or retired by now ?!?!? That's really old. :D

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I generate Board Warnings

"That's really old."

Watch it, bub!!

Wiz

TOO YOUNG TO RETIRE TOO OLD TO WORK

PARTY HARDY :P

OH I HAVE BEEN HEARING WSP UNITS TALKING TO MACC ON 158.850 HERE IN MOSES LAKE

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Brian Sewell

:D :D Not that it matters much - but who owned the car this young lady drove up under ??? Was the owner contacted or did he come out and talk to the police? What did the owner say to the Police? Did he agree not to file a report -- but to let his insurance company handle the matter?? OR did she own both vehicles?? Or was the other vehicle owned by a family member??