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ecps92
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:20 am 
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Guess the USFS has gone P25 out there, just went thru the NTIA FOIA and wow - lots of NAC's listed for the 419.6500 uplink to the 16x input frequency
[Edited] or as CP points out, the links are P25, but the VHF Repeaters are still Analog

Bet the NAC translates

6CA = 173.8

nickcarr wrote:
BigMikey26 wrote:
I picked this frequency up off of Discovery around Omak, WA any clues what it might be. 410.6500 NAC 6CA


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CLA CDD        FRQ          BINSER          MBR FOI BUR  NET   STC    EMS            PWR          NTS  AUS      AUD    RVD    EXD
   XSC  XAL                      XRC      XLA    XLG      XCL      XAD                      XAP XAZ SPD  TME  ICI MSD
   RSC  RAL                      RRC      RLA    RLG      ACL      RAD                      RAP RAZ
   SUP                                                                           REM
                                                                                                                                                     
U          *** M410.650000     A   100661   M       F6         FXR    8K10F1E        W10.00000         J1468175 100809 190131
                                                                                                       J0647467
                                                                                                       J1161287
   WA   AENEAS MOUNTAIN          OKANOGAN 484436N1193720W KOC  211 12GYAGI      01573H0009T     139      1    C
   WA   PITCHER MOUNTAIN         I,NTIA-U 481907N1193249W          12GYAGI      00809H0006T     353
   WA   TONASKET                 I,NTIA-U 484238N1192603W          12GYAGI      00284H0006T     285
   TRANSMIT ANTENNA AZIMUTH IS CENTERED BETWEEN MULTIPLE RECEIVE LOCATIONS.      *NRM,XXXXX,OKANOGAN - TONASKET NET
   FREQUENCY PAIR SELECTED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL FOOTNOTE 5.149      *EQS,LMS
   TO PROTECT THE CANADIAN DOMINION RADIO ASTROPHYSICAL OBSERVATORY LOCATED      *MFI,NATURAL RESOURCES
   AT 491912N 1193712W FROM HARMFUL INTERFERENCE IN THE 406.1-410 MHZ BAND.      *PRD,M419.6500,A   100662
                                                                                 *PRD,M419.6500,A   100663
                                                                                 *AGN,NAC-$6CA
                                                                                 *AGN,CONT BY M170.4750
                                                                                 *CAN,J0647467,100723,NHIA,M410.650000
                                                                                 *POC,S.THOMPSON,5419573242,181120
                                                                                 *AGN,ELEVATION SOURCE USGS 1/3 ARCSECOND
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nickcarr
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:18 pm 
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Nope they use P25 on VHF. The system has been up for a couple of years now but had very limited use due to COVID, etc.
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BigMikey26
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:27 pm 
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I finally was able to hear traffic, it was digital but choppy & sounded like Forest Service, thanks everyone for your insights
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nickcarr
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:22 pm 
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BigMikey26 wrote:
I finally was able to hear traffic, it was digital but choppy & sounded like Forest Service, thanks everyone for your insights


Well don't listen to the UHF that's just the interconnect thingy.

Listen to:

170.475 (164.9625 INPUT) TONASKET NET
172.350 (165.0125 INPUT) METHOW VALLEY NET

Different NAC for different mountains:

$40B MCCLURE MTN
$455 ROCK MTN
$61F MT BONAPARTE
$5EA BUCKHORN MTN
$585 TUNK MTN
$430 TRANSPORTABLE
$5B6 MONUMENT 83
$4CE GRANITE PASS
$526 SLATE PEAK
$68F N TWENTYMILE
$4A4 GOAT MTN
$455 MIDNIGHT MTN
$788 SWEETGRASS BT
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cparris2
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Gifford Pinchot NF still uses analog on the VHF repeaters, but the link thingy are P25. Same with Mt Hood and USFS Columbia Dispatch in Vancouver.

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nickcarr
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:08 pm 
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For anyone looking for a challenge... go DF 163.3 Mhz $293 and find out who the user is... they have been very busy all over King County the past week. TGID == 1, RID == 475xx

And yes they are ENC.
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Jim
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:25 am 
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163.300 was MYSTIC 61

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nickcarr
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nickcarr wrote:
For anyone looking for a challenge... go DF 163.3 Mhz $293 and find out who the user is... they have been very busy all over King County the past week. TGID == 1, RID == 475xx ... And yes they are ENC.


Appears to be just two users... 47504 and 47514. No idea who they are but still transmitting. May be a couple of naughty hams at play...

Their encryption key name is interesting... "ABC1"
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nickcarr
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VCALL 10 (155.7525 Mhz @ 156.7 PL)

AUDIO --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptskpmrg11roq ... .mp3?raw=1

Smokejumpers? Training at JBLM? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Wilrobnson
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:53 pm 
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Well, smokejumpers don't do night jumps. No idea otherwise.

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More than likely a tactical raid on the Federal Building in Seattle. They're after a list of undercover DEA agents. Using a drump truck as the getaway vehicle.
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nickcarr wrote:
More than likely a tactical raid on the Federal Building in Seattle. They're after a list of undercover DEA agents. Using a drump truck as the getaway vehicle.

Cutting your pills in half again?

Didn't your doctor tell you to take the whole dose every day?

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You need to watch better movies...
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I don't have time. I leave the house.

Try it sometime.

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