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 Post subject: Cadence
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:27 pm 
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Thanks, Flash. Great explanation. I'll pass it on to a few dozen people this weekend, for sure!

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how fast or slow he's about to do something


reminded me that I noticed an deliberate (?) lag between when the solo guy would say "Hit it!" during a pass, and when the two planes actually rolled, or turned on smoke or whatever.

It seems like a they have practiced a one second delay between the "mark" and the action.

I am though a bit perplexed at the calling out of the landmarks the leader did during their look-around flight this morning. He's pointing out landmarks that they're somehow going to use during the show. But, I didn't hear him call any of them out during the show this afternoon.

Are his buddies all scribbling like mad on a clipboard the landmarks are, or is their memory so darned good that when they do the real show they actually remember, "Okay, I'm going to line up on that red-house that he pointed out earlier." Pretty amazing, whichever it is!

He also called out what I guess are miles (or seconds) ... so I'm voting for the clipboard explanation. Flying a multi-million dollar jet a few hundred feet off the ground with one hand and one eye while you scribble a landmark onto a dance card? Wow.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:31 pm 
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You mostly hear the solos using the landmarks on their opposing passes. On 305.5 today you would have heard heard them call out their four mile marks and then the lead solo would call the three, two and one mile mark and whether he's ahead or behind plan. They wouldn't describe the landmark again. They'd just call 'three' instead of 'nice Hatteras on the H-shaped dock'. That I've seen, they're not writing on a kneeboard, they're just memorizing the details.

Favorite landmark today: "That big tree one street back from the waterfront"


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 Post subject: Memory
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I'm impressed that they just remember all the landmarks... but then again, they're purebred, high-performance, best-of-the-best, so maybe it's not all that startling.


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 Post subject: Blue Angles
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:37 pm 
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andykeck wrote:
305.5 was the solos

284.25 / 275.35 / 237.8 was diamond and delta stuff. I never have gotten a sense for why they change mid-maneuver but they usually have two frequencies going during any given show. I didn't make a note about 255.2 although I saw it come up a few times.


I think 255.200 is for ground surport back at BEOING Feild. I heard that freq come when they RTB not much traffic

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 Post subject: Blue Angles
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[Dave, I'm surprised you didn't get 284.25?

Yes I did get that freq I just forgot to post it

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In case anyone is interested in this related tidbit, the Washington State Patrol seems to be coordinating the shut down of I-90 on the WSP State Common Freq (155.97)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:36 pm 
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The Patriots Jet Demonstration Team who fly before the Blue Angels are on 124.875 and show control is 118.875.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:54 pm 
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The Patriots also were on 127.300 "discrete" after their performance.

Most of the aircraft entering or exiting the TFR airspace are communicating with Seattle Approach control on 119.200.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:58 pm 
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Anybody hear the com cart today? I couldn't pick them up today although I had them Thursday and Friday.


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Yeah I got her once today - it was at very end of the show when she "released" the airspace.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:57 pm 
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I was local today and the com cart was L & C and more traffic than usual. A lot of the same freq (460 splinters) as last year.

Oh 139.8125 and why has the com cart changed freq almost every year for the last 5 +years and before that same freq for a while.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:41 pm 
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andrecs wrote:
Yeah I got her once today - it was at very end of the show when she "released" the airspace.


Do you remember the freq?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:33 pm 
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. It was the 139.8125. Usually it's just the wx and time, have a good show stuff. Today there was an issue of time with the little blue angles that came before them and an Airlift fixted wing coming into BFI about 1/2 way through show. It was not an issue.

If you live out of town and have a scanner that gets 225-400 give it a try with their antenna being at 10000feet at times. I'm about 40 miles from town have have no problem(except when on the deck) with a Ht and rod antenna.

So who is the com cart (in the pits) talking to and where are they? Maybe you guys at BFI could help with that. At the lake we heard both sides of a conversation way before Fat A was off the ground so is the BFI side hard wired or radio linked?


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Gotcha. That's really strange as I was getting the actvity on 139.8125 loud and clear from both the I-90 bridge on Friday and at the Museum of Flight on Thursday. But I got nothing at the north end of the runway yesterday.

I need to double check that maybe I locked out that freq on Friday as there was a lot of traffic from the cart throughout the show about some unsigned paperwork.


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Yep, I concur - Com Cart was 139.8125. And that's about all I know as far as what they do.. Sorry..


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