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Listening to a chase tonight involving Kirkland PD as well as KCSO and they said they were switching the chase and search to PSOPS N2 Now I have this is all my radios yet there was no comms at all. I have the Tg as 62960 is this incorrect or did they recently change>? I even heard Guardian 1 come up on the Kirkland main and say they would contact county and everyone on PSOPS N2 yet i hear nada zip zero.... did these talkgroups change recently?

They probably had patched PSOPS to another talkgroup. When they do that, it changes the TGID.

Cowboymike --- Are you using a Bearcat or a GRE/Radio Shack scanner. The Pro96 does not pick up TGIDs that are patched -- or joined togather -- becuse they add 3 to the both TG numbers. The Bearcats should decode them -- . 62960 becomes 62963 when it's patched into another TG. Likewise -- the other patched TG is increased by 3.

Radio shack Pro-97 and BC 780xlt.... I didn't hear any comms on PSOPS N2

Uniden scanners don't handle patches gracefully.

If the dispatcher patches talkgroup "A" to "B", the result is a different than if B was patched to A. The site calls the result either A+3 or B+3. Motorola radios know that if you've selected A or B, listen for the announced patch number. Watching Trunker is really useful here.

The scanners generally only have the first level of smarts: they know if you selected A, accept A+3... but they don't really watch the patch instructions to know to accept B+3 when you've tuned A. So to guarantee you'll hear the patch, you need to:
a) use a site for which the patch is active
b) have both A and B programmed and unlocked (which implies you've got an idea of what the 'other' talkgroup is)

Flash

The A+3 or the B+3 is dictated by which talkgroup goes into the talkgroup merge first at the console. No rhyme or reason. Whichever talkgroup the dispatcher assigns first.

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I guess that it would be too good -- to hope that the NEW GRE scanners have a way to monitor all patched TG's .

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Hey guess what! I moved back to Spokane County, where everything is still good 'ol VHF.
How simple. From a scanners point of view.

Bad move. Better think about re-locating -- again. In about 2 - 3 years there will be nothing left on VHF high band. And pick up a good scanner that covers from 700 to 900 Mhz. LOL -- But you'll have at least 2 to 3 years of good scanning till then. :D :D :D

I'll enjoy it while it last.
And it was a good move. Imagine... doing the speed limit on I-90 during 'rush' hour. I lived the first 25 years and the last 5 years on the west side.
I prefer over 'here'.

It will be interesting to see how the 700 auction goes after the analog TV makes the switch.

Hey guess what! I moved back to Spokane County, where everything is still good 'ol VHF.
How simple. From a scanners point of view.


Not for long. You may be the first 700 system in the state

Is Spokane gonna be installing their own 700 system, or jumping onto IIMARS?

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Wil, What's IIMARS? I think that it is just the county

I'm pretty sure Spokane County (and city) have'nt updated since VHF-Lo Band.
Same frequencies dating back to the 70's.
They probably are due for an update.
But hey, at least it doesn't rain for days and days.

:D Mark -- as always -- is "right on the noise". Spokane County + City is already halfway along with a new 700 Mhz system. OOOOPPS !!! You didn't hear it from me. You got it from the same horse as I did. It will include all agencies in the county.