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 Post subject: WSP radio question
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 10:07 pm 
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Ok, Trying to track down what was the old freq or band(assume it was low-band) that the WSP used prior to the 60's(or was it in the 50's) and when did the transistion finally get phased over to the high-band?
Some photos of 60's and early 70's WSP cruisers have both the high band antenna on the roof and a longer whip on the rear fender.

Now since this was the mainly the late 60's, cb would seem to be not that popular yet and did they run a high and low-band radio together until the high band was developed (more remote bases established?) dispatching thru local sheriff's on a 39 mhz freq?(the local govt. catch all freq)

Some of the other pics of 60's and 70's cruisers have mainly a roof mount high band whip as the sole antenna. I know they finally installed cb's at some point later on in the 70's.

Comparing notes with a cop car collector and it stumped me, as the knowledge of the past is rapidly escaping.


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:D :D :D I hope they don't start calling me an old timer for knowing the answer. Most of the west coast states used the 42 Mhz State Police band, with a few exceptions. The WSP used 42.54 base / mobile and 42.40 car to car. Both Oregon and Idaho used the 42 Mhz band. The last stations using low band were Spokane and the far Southeast part of the State in Asotin County. Idaho also used 42.54 and the CHP in California STILL USES THIS FREQUENCY ("Green Channel") The WSP still had a valid licence on low band until about 1974 - 1975. The old Low Band radios could only receive the 42 mhz channels. CB has never been endorsed by the WSP HQ. MTM


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CB's are endorsed and installed by fleet services.


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 6:24 pm 
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I heard they recently upgraded from the Motorola Mocat to the Galaxy DX55V. I think its the model with 10 bands, built in echo-box, and roger beep.


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 10:38 pm 
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What you will see is the Uniden Pro 510 or 520. I don't know anything about the Galaxy, however there are still a few surviving Mocat's out there, I know that Okanogan still had one in 2002.


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State Patrol has used the Uniden Pro 510\520, since the early 1990's when the radios came out. It's small compact and Reliable, fits into the console. It would be ILLEGAL for the State patrol to use a Amateur Radio, on the CB channels. They would be in Violation of FCC LAW (No more than 4Watts Power Output). They could run the Galaxy, only on the 10 meter band, IF they were an Licensed Amateur operator, with the Proper License. IN Emergencies only, Anyone can use ANY radio at hand, to get help.

If you haven't been following the news lately, the FCC is cracking down on Truck Stops, selling the Galaxy radios. Just like they did with RCI, back in the mid 90's. When they raided the RCI guys, put them in JAIL for a few days, confinscated and put Customs stops on imports. RCI was told, to make a 24M\10M radio. FCC didn't want the radios, easily modifiable to 11 Meters.

State and Local Police, can't violate Fed laws. In an Emergency, you could transmite on 11 meters with your modified radio, BUT you'll lose it, once the emergency is over.


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:18 pm 
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Are you sure about that ? I heard two state troopers on channel 30 last week and one of them was definitely running an echo-box.


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Are you sure it wasn't IMBE ?

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:53 pm 
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ALL the Marked State patrol cars, have Uniden Pro 510 or 520 (520, has RF Gain and PA, (PA isn't used, since the one in their car is LOUDER) You can always ADD an Echo \ Beep mic, onto ANY CB.
I know for a FACT. Shoreline uses CB channel 27 for car to car, wana get some coffee. Also, same with Snohomish. Keeps stuff OFF the regular channels (old UHF)(and now trunk system).
As for the Amateur, Lots of officers have their own ticket. Had a Regular customer at ABC Comm, Det SGT with KC Police. Unmarked car. Has a screw driver antenna on the rear of car. Guess what, He got the first one ripped off, during a bust two years ago. Came out, it was gone. The unmarked car, had Lights and Exempt county plates. But he runs a Yeasu HF-70cm and a couple 2\70 ht's.

But it's different, for local police, in the redneck boondocks like Kennewick. Ask my cousin Brian, whom is the Police SGT of Kennewick. They use Amateur and CB, besides regular police radios. Or other areas, like Edmonds where they don't use CB, Just ask my other cousin SGT John Marsh.

IMBE? Yes, for APCO25 Astros ect or alike, never heard of them adding a board to a CB (other that a Internal board for Roger-beep, talkback, echo ect) for digital modulation?.


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 8:45 pm 
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Kennewick a redneck boondocks? lol I would think that way of Prosser or Benton City than a city of 60,000. Thanks for the responses, the 42 mhz sounds reliable and would seem to be what they had for a while until high-band took over,.
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