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| Author: | Deeply Shrouded [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | 2 more officers shot.... |
I have a question for those in the know of how such things work. When you call 911, the phone number you are calling from and the address appear on the dispatcher's screen right? Doesn't the name of the person whose telephone number called also appear? Since those who register to legally carry a weapon have to also submit their name and address in order to pass a background check, why not merge that information into the E911 system to alert the dispatcher that a weapon is registered to that address? --Deeply Shrouded & Quiet |
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| Author: | the Outlaw [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
They're two different systems. E911 is a telephone thing. WASIC, DoL, Access, NCIC (& all the others) are separate. It pops up at the bottom on the return. Something like this: Joe Mo Blow 00/00/0000 No record (blank) *Caution: Concealed Weapons Permit* ------------------------------------ If you're the comp, your name will be checked. :party: |
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| Author: | Brian10 [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
anyone got an update on the 2 officers, |
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| Author: | TechnoWeenie [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
the Outlaw wrote: They're two different systems. E911 is a telephone thing. WASIC, DoL, Access, NCIC (& all the others) are separate. It pops up at the bottom on the return. Something like this: Joe Mo Blow 00/00/0000 No record (blank) *Caution: Concealed Weapons Permit* ------------------------------------ If you're the comp, your name will be checked. :party: That pisses me off... 1. It's none of your damn business that I have guns 2. CAUTION?! WTF?! I went through the LEGAL way to conceal a pistol, and now I'm being looked at as a potential threat? Other than the fact that you need a CPL to carry a loaded weapon in car, I wouldn't even get a CPL.. Open carry is legal :D Not a lot of people know that you're not legally required to register your firearms in WA.. All but one of the firearms I've purchased have been through private sales, confirmed not stolen, and never registered. I'm all for officer safety, but I'm sick and tired of it being at the expense of privacy/liberty. |
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| Author: | Scannerguy12 [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
I also understand the Officers did not follow proceedure. I am not sayng this lets the shooter off the hook. I hope that corrective can be taken for thier safety. |
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| Author: | Brian10 [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
anyone got an update on the 2 officers, |
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| Author: | the Outlaw [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
Brian10 wrote: anyone got an update on the 2 officers, One has been released, one's not doing to well. |
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| Author: | Brian10 [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
thanks |
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| Author: | n7maq [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
Deeply Shrouded wrote: I have a question for those in the know of how such things work. When you call 911, the phone number you are calling from and the address appear on the dispatcher's screen right? Doesn't the name of the person whose telephone number called also appear? Since those who register to legally carry a weapon have to also submit their name and address in order to pass a background check, why not merge that information into the E911 system to alert the dispatcher that a weapon is registered to that address? --Deeply Shrouded & Quiet The scumbags who will shoot at an officer are certainly NOT going to follow any laws that says to register your gun. As the old saying goes, "if you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns". Jim |
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| Author: | Brad [ Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2 more officers shot.... |
TechnoWeenie wrote: the Outlaw wrote: They're two different systems. E911 is a telephone thing. WASIC, DoL, Access, NCIC (& all the others) are separate. It pops up at the bottom on the return. Something like this: Joe Mo Blow 00/00/0000 No record (blank) *Caution: Concealed Weapons Permit* ------------------------------------ If you're the comp, your name will be checked. :party: That pisses me off... 1. It's none of your damn business that I have guns 2. CAUTION?! WTF?! I went through the LEGAL way to conceal a pistol, and now I'm being looked at as a potential threat? Other than the fact that you need a CPL to carry a loaded weapon in car, I wouldn't even get a CPL.. Open carry is legal :D Not a lot of people know that you're not legally required to register your firearms in WA.. All but one of the firearms I've purchased have been through private sales, confirmed not stolen, and never registered. I'm all for officer safety, but I'm sick and tired of it being at the expense of privacy/liberty. Let's not all pop a gasket over this.... So far, no one I've talked to (other officers, dispatchers, data people) have EVER seen the "Caution: Concealed Weapons Permit" tag on any return they have access to. If there's some agency that has internal RMS or MDC software that makes that tag, then so be it - it's specific to an agency. The current DOL returns make NO reference to CPL status. It's a separate query (though some software will make that inquiry automatically, it's still a separate query done by the software - not the officer/data person). Even that query doesn't have any "Caution" tags - it's just a return with basic permit information. About the only time I'm concerned about someone having a gun is when they walk at me with their hand in their pockets, or if they're rummaging around under their seat. Or, if they're perched on a rooftop or grassy knoll. Otherwise, I don't really care too much. I'd hate to think of all the times a gun has been pointed at me - without my knowledge. Locked and Moved. |
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