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Anyone monitor railroad freqs? and if so what are the "hot" freqs to listen in on? I have several programed that i got from a railscanning website and this site have them plugged in all day and no comms. I'm in Woodinville and live right near the tracks in town, seems somewhat active. Thank you.

BNSF Woodinville Sub-
Maltby to Kirkland and Bromart to Redmond : 161.010
Black River to Kirkland : 161.415

awesome keep em coming . Thanks

I'm 90% on this (from memory);
161.100 for the mainline (+ detectors) which paralells SR2.
Great signal around Skykomish and Monroe when I lived up that way.
Punch it in and check it out. (?).
I used to sit up in the Money Creek campground with the Skykomish river on one side and the Mainline on the other and monitor the train comms (+ forest and what ever else).

Would anyone happen to have the railroad frequencies for the South King County area south towards the Portland area?
Any would be appreciated.
Thank you.....

BNSF

Seattle to Tukwila AAR7070 -161.160mhz "Seattle Terminal dispatcher"
Tukwila to Nisqually-AAR8787- 161.415mhz "Centralia N. dispatcher"
Nisqually to Vancouver Jct N. AAR6666-161.100mhz "Centralia South"
Portland area 7676-161.250mhz "Vancouver Terminal Disp"
Washougal to Pasco AAR 8787-161.415 mhz "Pasco West"

UP -Argo Yard to Reservation(Tacoma) AAR 2727-160.515mhz "UP Sea. Sub"

This might help you.....

New Extended AAR Band Plan - Including Added Frequencies

The FCC has been reorganizing many of the band plans for business radio, and the railroads are no exception. With the advent of new equipment, it's possible to have frequencies that are spaced closer together then before. In the rail band, they've added frequencies in between the old standard AAR channels. These frequencies will probably be utilized more in the future as railroads adapt their radio systems. I assume the big roads will be the first to make use of these. As you can see by looking at the list of individual railroads near the bottom of the page, some of the big roads have already reserved these frequencies and hold licenses for them.


Frequencies Outside the AAR Channel Group


Frequencies that railroads might utilize outside the typical AAR band plan. Here's a list of the ones I'm aware of...

EOTD (End of Train Devices) - 457.9375 These are the boxes that are attached to the coupler of the last car in the train. They transmit data to the head end.
EOTD (End of Train Devices) - 452.9375 This frequency is mostly used on trains in Canada, but I've also heard of it being used on the head end in America, to "talk" to the EOTD.
VHF Marine Channel 16 - 156.800 This can sometimes be the calling frequency for lift bridges.
Advanced Train Control Systems (ATCS) - This is the new system that railroads are starting use on upper 800 and 900 MHz frequencies. The frequencies are being registered under the Association of American Railroads, or the Transportation Technology Center, not the individual railroads that use them. These radio systems basically collect information about train movement and other things along the line. This information is sent to computers and is then used to create the realtime displays dispatchers have on their screens, showing train movement and so on. The data isn't always sent through the air, but when it is, it's done in a duplex method using two different frequencies. Small high band yagi antennas at various points along the right-of-way are usually used for these transmissions. The list below is my understanding of what frequencies are being used for this system now. There may be others, and I'm sure this will change greatly in the future.
Channel - 1 MCP - 896.8875 BCP - 935.8875 Union Pacific
Channel - 2 MCP - 896.9375 BCP - 935.9375 CSX
Channel - 3 MCP - 896.9875 BCP - 935.9875 Shared ATCS Network
Channel - 4 MCP - 897.8875 BCP - 936.8875 BNSF
Channel - 5 MCP - 897.9375 BCP - 936.9375 Norfolk Southern
Channel - 6 MCP - 897.9875 BCP - 936.9875 ???
400 Mhz Frequencies - These frequencies are used for various things, including remote train control systems.

452.900
452.90625
452.9125
452.91875
452.9250
452.93125
452.9375
452.94375
452.9500
452.95625
452.9625
452.96875
457.9000
457.90625
457.9125
457.91875
457.9250
457.93125
457.9375
457.94375
457.9500
457.95625
457.9625
457.96875


Various Frequencies - The below frequencies are listed as being set aside for rail use in the national FCC database. It's unknown how many of them are being used now, and for what purpose. Some of the 900 MHz frequencies are being used for the above mentioned ATCS.
72.520
162.4000
902.000 - 928.000 (AEI Car Tag Systems)
935.8875
935.8880
935.9375
935.9380
935.9875
935.9880
936.8875
936.8880
936.9375
936.9380
936.9875
936.9880
1875.000
1895.000
1955.000
1965.000
1975.000
1985.000
6665.000
6705.000
6825.000
6865.000
Ham Radio - It's been reported that hams have sometimes talked with crew members operating trains, who are also hams. Frequencies to monitor for this are 2 meter simplex...
146.460
146.490
146.940
147.300




Business: Railroad Allocations
(From the March 2000 "Service Search" column by Larry Van Horn, MT Assistant Editor)
In this month's Service Search column we will start taking an in-depth look at the new Industrial/Business Pool. We will start with the first of four categories into which Industrial/Business Pool has been condensed: the LR or Railroad allocations. These frequencies are currently being licensed by the Federal Communications Commission. Scanner listeners should be listening for newly allocated splinter channels (VHF 7.5 kHz/UHF 6.25 kHz) to become active in their areas.
Business: Railroad Allocations


159.810 IA Base or mobile <AAR Channel 2> LR Canada Only
159.930 IA Base or mobile <AAR Channel 3> LR Canada Only
160.050 IA Base or mobile <AAR Channel 4> LR Canada Only
160.185 IA Base or mobile <AAR Channel 5> LR Canada Only
160.200 IA Base or mobile <AAR Channel 6> LR Canada Only
160.215 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 7>
160.2225 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.230 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 8
160.2375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.245 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 9>
160.2525 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.260 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 10>
160.2675 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.275 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 11>
160.2825 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.290 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 12>
160.2975 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.305 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 13>
160.3125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.320 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 14>
160.3275 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.335 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 15>
160.3425 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.350 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 16>
160.3575 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.365 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 17>
160.3725 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.380 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 18>
160.3875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.395 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 19>
160.4025 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.410 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 20>
160.4175 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.425 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 21>
160.4325 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.440 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 22>
160.4475 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.455 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 23>
160.4625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.470 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 24>
160.4775 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.485 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 25>
160.4925 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.500 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 26>
160.5075 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.515 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 27>
160.5225 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.530 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 28>
160.5375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.545 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 29>
160.5525 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.560 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 30>
160.5675 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.575 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 31>
160.5825 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.590 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 32>
160.5975 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.605 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 33>
160.6125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.620 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 34>
160.6275 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.635 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 35>
160.6425 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.650 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 36>
160.6575 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.665 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 37>
160.6725 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.680 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 38>
160.6875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.695 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 39>
160.7025 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.710 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 40>
160.7175 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.725 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 41>
160.7325 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.740 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 42>
160.7475 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.755 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 43>
160.7625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.770 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 44>
160.7775 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.785 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 45>
160.7925 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.800 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 46>
160.8075 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.815 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 47>
160.8225 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.830 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 48>
160.8375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.845 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 49>
160.8525 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.860 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 50>
160.8675 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.875 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 51>
160.8825 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.890 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 52>
160.8975 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.905 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 53>
160.9125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.920 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 54>
160.9275 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.935 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 55>
160.9425 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.950 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 56>
160.9575 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.965 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 57>
160.9725 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.980 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 58>
160.9875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
160.995 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 59>
161.0025 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.010 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 60>
161.0175 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.025 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 61>
161.0325 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.040 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 62>
161.0475 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.055 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 63>
161.0625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.070 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 64>
161.0775 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.085 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 65>
161.0925 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.100 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 66>
161.1075 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.115 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 67>
161.1225 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.130 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 68>
161.1375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.145 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 69>
161.1525 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.160 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 70>
161.1675 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.175 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 71>
161.1825 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.190 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 72>
161.1975 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.205 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 73>
161.2125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.220 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 74>
161.2275 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.235 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 75>
161.2425 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.250 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 76>
161.2575 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.265 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 77>
161.2725 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.280 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 78>
161.2875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.295 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 79>
161.3025 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.310 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 80>
161.3175 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.325 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 81>
161.3325 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.340 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 82>
161.3475 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.355 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 83>
161.3625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.370 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 84>
161.3775 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.385 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 85>
161.3925 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.400 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 86>
161.4075 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.415 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 87>
161.4225 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.430 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 88>
161.4375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.445 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 89>
161.4525 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.460 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 90>
161.4675 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.475 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 91>
161.4825 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.490 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 92>
161.4975 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.505 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 93>
161.5125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.520 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 94>
161.5275 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.535 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 95>
161.5425 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.550 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 96>
161.5575 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
161.565 LR Base or mobile <AAR Channel 97>
161.610 LR Base or mobile Shared with Maritime Mobile Service (secondary)
452.900 LR Base or mobile
452.90625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
452.9125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
452.91875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
452.925 LR Base or mobile Train remote control on secondary basis
452.93125 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
452.9375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
452.94375 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
452.950 LR Base or mobile Train remote control on secondary basis
452.95625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
452.9625 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
452.96875 LR Base or mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz/Train remote control on secondary basis
457.900 LR Mobile
457.90625 LR Mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
457.9125 LR Mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
457.91875 LR Mobile Bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
457.925 LR Mobile Remote control allowed
457.93125 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
457.9375 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
457.94375 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
457.950 LR Mobile Remote control allowed
457.95625 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz
457.9625 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 11.25 kHz
457.96875 LR Mobile Remote control allowed/bandwidth not to exceed 6 kHz

IA - Business; these channels used by railroads in Canada
AAR - American Association of Railroads

:D :D That sure is great info --- but keep in mind -- the railroads are cutting staff and automating everything that they can't get rid of. 99% of railroad communications are within the 160.215 to 161.565 Mhz railroad band. A new proposed FCC rule -- will allow use of ANY railroad channel -- within a 50 to 60 mile radius of any railroad line, track or "right of way". It will save the railroads stacks of cash -- because they will only need to file one master license for the entire system. Each time the railroad files for a base station license -- it costs about $ 750. --- " Fed-Ex " -- now owns several "shortline" railroads. They do use the common railroad channels -- but have been a "little lacks" in filing for a valid FCC license. Most use one or more - "mainline" railroad channels as well as one or more "private channels". And keep in mind the NEW FCC rules. ANY OPEN" or Un-used radio channel -- can be used by both PW - Public Safety Radio and IG - Business Radio users. Asotin County PWD uses a common Railroad channel.

I do a lot of listening on the internet on live streams. http://www.psrrr.net/Live_Stream.html and http://www.railroadradio.net/. From Newcastle you could probably hear trains working in the Kent Valley. Maybe some UP dispatch and yard on 160.515. And some BNSF main channel dispatch on 161.160 or 161.415. Its all about going to the yard and watching and figuring out which channel they are using.

BNSF -- "Bakersfield" dispatcher-- 160.935 road -- from Bakersfield to Fresno (Calwa).

I know old thread but...

http://www.psrrr.net/ mentioned above is run by a local amateur, Pete Kruml K7KFJ.

:wink:

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