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| Author: | chpalmer [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Tower Accident in Spokane |
http://www.nwcn.com/home/184632851.html Luckily he walked away from it. |
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| Author: | Jim [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
:shock: Lucky the ladder was long enough! |
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| Author: | chpalmer [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
As a tower crew we are supposed to know how and have the ability on hand to get our own people rescued. Im not sure where the breakdown happened there. Lucky day for him. |
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| Author: | Badger [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
chpalmer wrote: As a tower crew we are supposed to know how and have the ability on hand to get our own people rescued. Im not sure where the breakdown happened there. Lucky day for him. While I would agree, the first thing, especially if I am within a quick response area and not on top of some mountain is to call 911. I would much rather climb down a ladder than to have a rescue harness placed on me, cut from my fall arrest gear, unless you are going to raise merelease tension and unclip it and then lower me down. The typical pre rigged rescue 3:1 bag is not enough to lower a guy to the ground, Most of them don't have rescue harnesses with them. There doesn't appear to me much room to set up a 3:1 to pull the guy up. They could have built a rope ladder and he could stepped up (hard to do) Probably the best way to handle this situation was to stabilize/tie him off and wait for help. The FD is going to show up with enough people, enough equipment to do it safer than 99.99% of tower guys could do. At best there was probably 2-3 guys doing the tower work. Hopefully 10-15 FD show up to play. This is a good learning lesson though.. Have someone else check your harness before you go up. |
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| Author: | Wilrobnson [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
Bah, I have a 200-foot shot of Mammut 10.5 in my office. A quick Swiss Seat and it's back to work in 10 minutes or less...pending a pants change, that is. |
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| Author: | Badger [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
Wilrobnson wrote: Bah, I have a 200-foot shot of Mammut 10.5 in my office. A quick Swiss Seat and it's back to work in 10 minutes or less...pending a pants change, that is. You are probably in the 1% category :D We would all do what we need to do in the boonies, but getting the FD on scene in under 5-8 minutes was probably the wisest thing to do in this case. |
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| Author: | the Outlaw [ Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
Wilrobnson wrote: Bah, I have a 200-foot shot of Mammut 10.5 in my office. A quick Swiss Seat and it's back to work in 10 minutes or less...pending a pants change, that is. Pics. That would make an awesome deer stand. Too bad it's way out in a city. |
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| Author: | chpalmer [ Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tower Accident in Spokane |
Badger wrote: chpalmer wrote: As a tower crew we are supposed to know how and have the ability on hand to get our own people rescued. Im not sure where the breakdown happened there. Lucky day for him. While I would agree, the first thing, especially if I am within a quick response area and not on top of some mountain is to call 911. I would much rather climb down a ladder than to have a rescue harness placed on me, cut from my fall arrest gear, unless you are going to raise merelease tension and unclip it and then lower me down. The typical pre rigged rescue 3:1 bag is not enough to lower a guy to the ground, Most of them don't have rescue harnesses with them. There doesn't appear to me much room to set up a 3:1 to pull the guy up. They could have built a rope ladder and he could stepped up (hard to do) Probably the best way to handle this situation was to stabilize/tie him off and wait for help. The FD is going to show up with enough people, enough equipment to do it safer than 99.99% of tower guys could do. At best there was probably 2-3 guys doing the tower work. Hopefully 10-15 FD show up to play. This is a good learning lesson though.. Have someone else check your harness before you go up. They tell us in class to not expect much from the local fire agencies. While some can, most probably cannot. If he slipped from his harness I question their methods from the time they got in their trucks to go to work. Hanging in a harness for more than 20 or 30 minutes can actually be deadly. So waiting for a rescue crew to get up the mountain is usually out of the question. But in class we have to lower a fellow classmate out of a tower to the ground without killing them. :twisted: As the victim we cant help in any way and have to play unconscious. Its a little UN-nerving to put so much trust in the first timers but the instructor is right there. In our rescue gear we have everything needed to connect you up to a life line and cinch you tight before we cut you loose or pull you up enough to disconnect you from the other rope or other that has you hung up. Then use an descender device to lower us both together. We are supposed to train regularly for rescue. There are many scenarios and we usually try to visit one with each class. Guess he's just lucky the ladder reached. |
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