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 Post subject: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:13 pm 
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Do helo's looking for lost people make calls for them on FRS and if so would it be on Ch 1 no tone or 9-11 (Ch. 9 tone 11)?

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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:21 am 
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I wouldn't expect the helo to do that work.

We had a search where the family told us the missing person had FRS radios and we made contact with them to help figure out where they are.

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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:07 am 
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Most people don't carry FRS radios... When a Helo locates a lost subject, we lower a care package to them that has a VHF radio with a simplex frequency programmed into it so the Helo and the ground search crews can talk to them.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:03 am 
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luminoxs wrote:
Most people don't carry FRS radios... When a Helo locates a lost subject, we lower a care package to them that has a VHF radio with a simplex frequency programmed into it so the Helo and the ground search crews can talk to them.


....we just have the helo pick them up and call it a day

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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:23 am 
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Ill ask my SAR deputy at lunch today...

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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:20 pm 
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My feeling is there ought to be a campaign to get hikers to haul a FRS with them, if lost. Seems an obvious solution to days of searching that so many teams do.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
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If we know somebody has one, and what frequency/tone they're using, we'll send a few out with teams to try to make contact with them, but given the typical range of those toys, I wouldn't call it reliable. Have seen it work once.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:54 pm 
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Range would be fine helo to ground.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:09 pm 
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I remember a local story (up north somewhere) where a person in distress made contact over a very significant distance to some kid, who relayed.

Elevation was key in this case.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:55 pm 
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Its unfortunate that some groups have attempted to standardize channel 1 with no tone as the "emergency" channel. The two obvious drawbacks of this is that more people use channel 1 for nonemergency chitchat purposes because most radios default to channel 1 out of the box and the other problem is that its a pain to monitor a popular channel with no tone selected as you will then have to listen to all the nonemergency nonsense regardless of what tone people are using. This really discourages monitoring. Last but not least, the "emergency" channel should be one of the first 7 channels (462.xxx) as most radios are hybrid FRS/GMRS which gives the user the option of running higher power in GMRS mode if necessary. Keep in mind that proper licensing is of least concern in a true emergency.

That being said, perhaps someone (us?) should start a drive for a sensible FRS/GMRS emergency channel that (a) is not channel 1, (b) uses a standard lower-numbered CTCSS tone, and (c) is channel 2,3,4,5,6, or 7.


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 Post subject: Re: S & R and FRS
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:56 pm 
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N7QOR wrote:
I remember a local story (up north somewhere) where a person in distress made contact over a very significant distance to some kid, who relayed.

Elevation was key in this case.

From Mt Hood, IIRC.

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