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Author:  Madhatter [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  IPN

Anyone here use or dispatch for IPN?

Author:  Wilrobnson [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

This is the one I use- the price is great!

Author:  Madhatter [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Never seems to want to work for me... How do you dispatch events on it?

I have been dispatching for IPN for about a year... and seems like every page I send out I get a nastygram back from them... Last one was my use of "ER" instead of "enrt"... I am just about fed up with them to the point of quitting... I dispatched a large pursuit a while back, and sent a total of 4 pages with updates, and about got fired... I am waiting on my nastygram from my shots fired page from last night... I am sure i will get one tomorrow when they will be back in the office... They really badger you to death and the reward for doing it just isn't there... If there was something to provide more incentive people might be more inclined to stay with them...

I am looking into [redacted] now...Its free to sign up and use...

Author:  Wilrobnson [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Madhatter wrote:
Never seems to want to work for me... How do you dispatch events on it?

I have been dispatching for IPN for about a year... and seems like every page I send out I get a nastygram back from them... Last one was my use of "ER" instead of "enrt"... I am just about fed up with them to the point of quitting... I dispatched a large pursuit a while back, and sent a total of 4 pages with updates, and about got fired... I am waiting on my nastygram from my shots fired page from last night... I am sure i will get one tomorrow when they will be back in the office... They really badger you to death and the reward for doing it just isn't there... If there was something to provide more incentive people might be more inclined to stay with them...

I am looking into [redacted] now...Its free to sign up and use...



Hmm. Joey (JRW here) had the same sort of issues with IPN a month or two ago, IIRC. It's another moneymaking service for them....Dispatch for us, and we'll charge people to receive it! Ours here is free at all ends.

Try logging out of the board, then logging back in and going to alerts. If that doesn't work, maybe you have to sign up with Rich to be a dispatcher. Try sending a private message to Rich about the trouble you're having.

Author:  Madhatter [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

I am about to quit IPN... I am done with their management sending nasty emails, and then sending your a email threatening to fire you unless you respond, which would be fine if they paid us, or had a really nice incentive program... But you earn points for stuff that is almost unattainable and a free IPN account for your local area... Yippee!

Seems to be magically working now... hmm... ;) Will have to start dispatching events here...

Author:  SoCalBrian [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Lots of people been mad at IPN before... It wont be the last time someone brings it up ;)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bayscan/message/51537
http://scandiego.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=15

Author:  jrw14493 [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Yakima County (Selah) | Brush Fire | 154.2575 | I-82 @ Fred Redmond Bridge | Brush Fire in median near SB rest area; multiple callers | WAS012


I got a reply from "Chuck"


Just a reminder, IPN uses the following groups for Brush Fires:

BRUSH FIRE: Incidents which meet at least 1 of the following criteria...

* AT LEAST a 1st alarm response working (Not 1 or 2 Units)
* AT LEAST 1 acre in size. (43,560 Sq Ft or 208 x 208)
* Helos/Planes Working
* Evacuation or extension to Structures.

MAJOR BRUSH: Brush Fires that are greater than 20 Acres or at least a 3rd Alarm response working the scene.

There is a high demand from our members for Brush incidents, so these groups were created. Many subscribers nationwide have selected these groups in order to receive significant forestry, wild-land & brush incidents, so it is imperative that they be paged over the proper group.

Just stating Brush Fire or Large brush fire is NOT Allowed. Details are needed for Size and if there is a full 1 Alarm or more of units working the Fire!

In the event of multiple alarms being ordered for a brush fire, simply update the incident & state the alarm level in the text area. There is no need to send brush over the regular alarm groups.

As always, thank you for your help. Please contact us if you have any questions or concerns.


Thank you,

Chuck Lowe
IPN Support Services Team
support@incidentpage.net


And because I have a big mouth, I sent a reply:


Chuck-

Thank you for your untimely reply.

I have a few problems with your BRUSH FIRE message criteria. This incident system is based on larger cities or counties. Here in Yakima County, the 1st alarm may only be 1 brush apparatus, thus meeting criteria #1. For criteria #2, granted the fire I sent the message out for wasn't 1 acre in size, it posed a hazard and traffic delay along a local INTERSTATE FREEWAY which delayed traffic while fire personnel worked around the roadway. Regardless of size, if it poses any sort of hazard or traffic delay, it should be dispatched. Thirdly, we could have a 3-alarm brush fire here in Yakima and not have helos or air tankers operating thus never meeting the 3rd criteria but meeting the 1st? Contradictory much? Lastly, you don't need evacuation or extension into structures to constitute a brush fire.

I will also have a hard time meeting the 3 dispatches a week requirement. If I'm going to keep up with that, I'll probably be sending out these dispatches that don't meet your standards. What you need to consider is that your standards are not going to be met across the nation, as this system reaches across the nation. For areas that don't meet your standards, your cause is blatantly worthless because of the lack of use it would get.

Finally, you don't live in Yakima County so how would you know the details of the call I am dispatching? How do you know that the event I'm dispatching isn't meeting your high standards? According to the internet, you live clear across the country from where I do, in an area that clearly operates fire departments very, very differently.

With my strong opinion being stated, if you feel that you can't lower your standards to truly meet the response types and call types across the nation, as you should to keep up your cause, then I wish to resign as a dispatcher for the Incident Page Network effective immediately. I thought this would be a neat opportunity to share events in my area with those who care, but if your standards are so high and cannot be met, then your cause is worthless in my area for a day-to-day, week-to-week basis

Thank you for your time.

Joey Smith
Yakima, WA

Author:  Madhatter [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

This was my last page out, and my reply from Chuckie... Really ENR is ok but ER is not? I didn't have any more letters left... had to cut one somewhere...

WAS002 wrote:
| Jefferson County (Quilcene)| Technical Rescue| 155.430/LE2| Pleasant Harbor Marina|One vessel dead in the water, high swells, Kitsap County boat ER to assist. M/A:Kitsap County| WAS002

Chuck wrote:
In order to streamline and standardize abbreviations, we have enacted new procedures:

PD is to be used for Police Department, not Private Dwelling.

E/R is for Emergency Room, not Enroute.

Because we have so many dispatchers all over the united States and Canada, we ask that you not use E/R but rather enr or enrt. We thank you for your help in making this happen.

Thank you,

Michael Heeder
IPN Support Services Team
support@incidentpage.net

Author:  FireDawg89 [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

I was a IPN Dispatcher several years ago when if you dispatched your monthly fee was free. The reason I quit is because they wanted all that Code and proper format crap where in this area it is all normal talk. You should dispatch on the pager as stated on the radio.

Author:  401402 [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

anyone have a freq used by ipn on there pagers

Author:  FireDawg89 [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

As well as CapCode?

Author:  Fstick [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

I just quit today from IPN for the same reasons as above nasty emails. I did 99 precent of my dispatch from my Droid and did them on the fly and got nasty grams almost every time. I sent IPN Michael Heeder a Email and told him what he could do! Made me feel so good! I dispatched at least 4 calls a 24 hour shift.

Here is one of the emails for Laughs:

Now - since I am right up the street form you, I know what a signal 20 is. HOwever, IPN is bigger than you or me, and in fact a Signal 20 here is different than in south Florida, or Georgia, or New York, or California. Thats why we use plain text.
Please use plain / clear text on all future pages. No points for this one. If you have any questions not addressed by the Guidelines, please let us know.

Thank you,

Michael Heeder
IPN Support Services Team
support@incidentpage.net


If I wanted to get yelled at all the time I would quit my job and stay at home with my wife, so she could do it. LOL

Author:  FireDawg89 [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Is there any other Emergency Paging Companies out there that will service the Northwest?

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IPN

Besides us ? I have no idea. All the other ones I heard of in the past either want money or want to spam you in exchange for their "service". We're free and we don't spam :)

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